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Post by WilD CherrY on May 27, 2006 22:01:57 GMT -5
What you can not do in this thread is Give links to Pro-suicide sites or request them Warning this thread may trigger.I want to discuss them because people DO use them. Love em' or hate em'? I just herd about these sites they have and I searched for some. I came along one that was coaching a 13 YEAR OLD on how to kill themselves. I was out right discuted by the 100's of replys they got and the different ways. So the question is Love em' or Hate em' and why and how is it possible to get rid of these sites? There has to be some rule against them or something! I just don't see how this is right!!!
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Post by Rachel on May 28, 2006 7:54:34 GMT -5
Pro-suicide sites are terrible,but the people visiting them dont think that,they think the opposite. You've got to respect the fact that,some people do get extremelly very low at times,and really want to kill themselves. These kinds of sites dont give her replies like other websites do,such as 'go and talk to a doctor' and the all time classic: 'isnt there anyone you could talk to,like a parent or a school teacher?' Someone whos feeling suicidal,doesnt want replies like that. They want effective replies that arent always the same. So they gain comfort by visiting sites like this,where they wont get people begging them to seek help,cos the person finds it impossible,and so the advice goes in one ear,and out the other,cos its just not an option. But obviously,on the other hand,encouraging a 13yr old to kill themselves is very dangerous and absolutely outrageous! I would never join a pro-suicide website,but i will admit that im a member of a pro-self injury website. And still,there very caring towards there members,and yes,they dont exactly stop self harm,but dont say 'lets all have a cutting session' They truely do get concerned whenever someone says there going to do this and that. I didnt join the site so i could be 'egged' on to self injure. It was cos it seemed a nice forum,and i felt like i could be as open and honest as i wanted to,without some people finding it disturbed or upsetting. I dont think we can ever stop pro suicide websites. Its the persons choice to search for them and join them. Which i guess could be signing there own death warrant so to speak xx
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Post by Sparkle on May 28, 2006 10:04:59 GMT -5
I hatre pro anything. Pro-Ana, Pro-Mia, Pro-Suicide.... Kill them all. And don't get me started.... may rant a bit more when I have time.
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Post by butter on May 28, 2006 11:08:08 GMT -5
I think they are wrong, but I can't say much because I have been to a site exactly like that to look for those posts for comfort and, well, ideas. Like Rachel said, it's comforting to know that you aren't going to get the same response that everyone gives, and she and I have the pro-SI site in common, I belong to one also.
Encouraging a 13 yr old to commit suicide is wrong, but when you find a web-site like that it is actually kind of comforting, up until you feel guilty about it. I think they should be locked, or kept away from kids and stuff, but not banned.But that is just my opinion, don't jump on me,pretty please.
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Post by Sparkle on May 28, 2006 13:34:04 GMT -5
*Jumps on Butter* OK- I have the time now. (This is more for ProAna and Mia) I think it's stupid the way people talk about it as a lifestyle instead of a problem.... it is a problem nd these people need to deal with it and get help. For Pro-Su... Erm.. never been on them, so can't really comment. But, pro-SI I admit... have been there. They helped for the short term, but I see now that they messed me up BIG time.
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Post by WilD CherrY on May 28, 2006 16:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by Rachel on May 28, 2006 16:22:36 GMT -5
Is it not a CRIME to help people die!!!!!!? Thats quite a tricky subject to be honest. Werent they trying to add a law saying that its your own right to die/end your life. I think its still illegal to help someone kill themselves,but if its there choice,and they ask you to help them with it,then it depends really. But encouraging someone online to end there life is obviously different to that.
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Post by WilD CherrY on May 28, 2006 16:42:21 GMT -5
I dont understand how it is different if its in real life or online its still humans! If your sitting in a room with a friend and tell them to kill you THEY ARE A MURDER just because someone asks you to kill them or help them kill themselves is NOT getting anyone off the hook. I never herd of this new law but I think its a load of Bull. Helping someone online or in life makes them an assesory to murder either way. The person is still going to try and die if its online. Sparkle you are right! Talking about it as a lifestyle is outragous. Who WANTS to have the lifestyle of hurting yourself everyday! How can people support HURT, PAIN, TEARS AND DEATH? ?? IN MY OPNION and I may be harsh about this because I USED to be a member at every PRO site and it does more BAD then good but These people who SUPPORT it are nuts!
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Post by GrapeJuice on May 28, 2006 16:56:43 GMT -5
How can it be comforting? C'mon really "They want effective replies that arent always the same." They want to be told that its OKAY to do these things when in reality it is not. All those sites are is an excape from the real life things that are going on. A place where they can be with people who will do it with them. Just like all the stereotypes the go together because everyones like them and they will all support what they are doing even if its wrong. If you do drugs and hang out with drug addcits or go to forums about doing drugs you will be made to think you are "cool" you go to a forum that is against drugs and there trying to help you stop drugs. But why would a drug addict not like the forum thats doing the right thing? Most likely because they don't want to quit and they want to be told that its okay to do this because then they wouldn't feel as bad.
I use drugs as a metaphor because they are addicting and addiction is what keeps people SI, SH and thinking about suicide. I hope I made my point clear I have a broken finger so its hard to type much.
How would you feel if you gave someone "tips" on how to cut and they died? Wouldn't feel very nice would it? I would like to pervent that from happening because life is presious and people on Pro-Suicide sites are nothing more then a group of people who have given up on life so the see no need to help others get better when infact YOU CAN get better or some sick twisted people that want people to die.
Once you hit the bottom theres no way to go but up.
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Post by Rachel on May 28, 2006 17:38:57 GMT -5
I dont understand how it is different if its in real life or online its still humans! If your sitting in a room with a friend and tell them to kill you THEY ARE A MURDER just because someone asks you to kill them or help them kill themselves is NOT getting anyone off the hook. I never herd of this new law but I think its a load of Bull. Helping someone online or in life makes them an assesory to murder either way. The person is still going to try and die if its online. Sparkle you are right! Talking about it as a lifestyle is outragous. Who WANTS to have the lifestyle of hurting yourself everyday! How can people support HURT, PAIN, TEARS AND DEATH? ?? IN MY OPNION and I may be harsh about this because I USED to be a member at every PRO site and it does more BAD then good but These people who SUPPORT it are nuts! Oh soz,i didnt explain myself correctly. When i said that encouraging suicide online,and helping someone personally to end there life is different,i meant through laws. I believe that there trying to make a law where its ok for someone to help someone to die,as long as that person wanted that,and actually wanted to die. Its called 'The Right To Die'. (as long as the person who wants to die is terminally ill or dying anyway) Whereas helping someone online commit suicide is different to that,because its virtually poisoning there mind and making them think its good to do that,and is always the best option to take,and theres noway out,and to provide information on how to commit suicide. There 2 different acts..thats what i meant
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Post by L.B on May 28, 2006 17:43:47 GMT -5
If a person is terminally ill or dying from a desiease then I see no problem with helping someone die but I think it should be done by a docotor. The Pro-Suicide sites I have seen was just people hating on life.
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Post by Rachel on May 28, 2006 17:46:26 GMT -5
If a person is terminally ill or dying from a desiease then I see no problem with helping someone die but I think it should be done by a docotor That would seem really weird,cos doctors are supposed to make us better,not help our lives to end
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Post by L.B on May 28, 2006 17:55:42 GMT -5
But if we are really sick and dieing anyways its different. Like if someones on life support its a doctors job. I think If we are at home and sick with lets say cancer and want to end our lifes i don't think its other peoples rights to help someone do that. I think it would be better for them to talk to someone about it first who can put things in perspective for them.
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Post by -‰KillerStyle‰- on May 29, 2006 6:04:18 GMT -5
I think im going to google them all and go do what they hate the most. Post about how horrible there site is then I will report them all to some place and hope and pray they get deleted so they can find sites to help them live instead PS this is katies crazy day (today I am crazz--ee) ps again I love the new smilies thingys they make me not use the quick reply ok back on topic NO PRO ANYTHING SITES!! booo
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Post by Honey Beeswax on May 29, 2006 14:28:15 GMT -5
idk id be interested in a pro suicide site
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Post by butter on May 29, 2006 21:10:34 GMT -5
I think im going to google them all and go do what they hate the most. Post about how horrible there site is then I will report them all to some place and hope and pray they get deleted so they can find sites to help them live instead PS this is katies crazy day (today I am crazz--ee) ps again I love the new smilies thingys they make me not use the quick reply ok back on topic NO PRO ANYTHING SITES!! booo You know they probobly won't be deleted, it isn't hard to find them. And to Honey Beeswax, I found one.But it's kind of sad, so I wouldn't recomend it.
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Post by GrapeJuice on May 29, 2006 21:18:19 GMT -5
They make me puke
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